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SmartStream 12 + Adobe InDesign 2017
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:47 pm
by sander
Anyone updated to SmartStream 12 + new configurators yet?
How's your experience? Let's share!
Long time Switch users, or HP users in this case, might already know upgrading can be very time consuming.
So instead of reinventing the wheel over and over again, let's create this shared experience topic
Re: SmartStream 12 + Adobe InDesign 2017
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:24 am
by LasseThid
I've downloaded the files from HP, but as it's a paid upgrade I have to wait until we get the new licenses before I can install.
Re: SmartStream 12 + Adobe InDesign 2017
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:04 am
by sander
At least the trial is 90 days
Re: SmartStream 12 + Adobe InDesign 2017
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:37 pm
by lombert
But then the variable just use the 10(?) first records..
Re: SmartStream 12 + Adobe InDesign 2017
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:44 pm
by sander
Just tried and you are right, the trial is not a full trial. Limit to 20 records.
Waiting for the key now
Re: SmartStream 12 + Adobe InDesign 2017
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:48 am
by LasseThid
I now have a key for SmartStream and I have also downloaded Switch 2017, so I'm gonna go ahead and ask for trouble...
Re: SmartStream 12 + Adobe InDesign 2017
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:53 am
by sander
To be sure: You've seen the mail with the updated Switch 2017?
Good luck man!
Re: SmartStream 12 + Adobe InDesign 2017
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:29 pm
by LasseThid
Yes, I downloaded Swith 2017 from the links in the mail, so hopfully I should be good...
I have also upgraded the Adobe CC suite to the 2017 versions, just to be on the safe side... hehehe...
Re: SmartStream 12 + Adobe InDesign 2017
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:12 pm
by LasseThid
So far, so good...
Switch 2017 installed without a problem, as did InDesign 2017 and HP SmartStream Designer 12. (I have a Mac running Mac OS X 10.10.5)
I did have a few issues until I realized that I had to update the configurators in Help - Manage configurators... After selecting the HP SmartStream configurators and updating them to v120 those issues went away.
I then ran a test of a workflow using the HP SmartStream Designer and had a couple of problems with the Asset file location and Asset location URL. Once those were set properly the files ended up in the correct folders, but there seems to be an incorrect setting or something because the file goes into the error directory. Unfortunately I don't have enough knowledge about the Indigo rip to check what have gone wrong, so I'm currently waiting for a colleague of mine to check what the problem is.
I do however have two issues that I think I will need to contact support about. Switch fails to connect to the Enfocus Appstore for some reason and the Flow elements list is empty, so I have to Right click and select Add in order to add elements to flows.
Update: Since I have been unable to get the rip to accept the jdf coming from Switch 2017 I copied the jdf before the rip deletes it, I then copied a jdf coming from Switch 13 and compared the two to see if there are any differences that might cause the problem. As far as I can see the jdf is very different, but unfortunately the technician I usually contact regarding Indigo issues is away on work and he wont be back until monday.
Re: SmartStream 12 + Adobe InDesign 2017
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:10 am
by LasseThid
Here's a picture showing the differences in the configurators (highlighted in pink).
Re: SmartStream 12 + Adobe InDesign 2017
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:13 am
by sander
So no SmartStream configurator issues but jdf issues? Ha, I did not see that one coming! Or are you mixing up SmartStream <> jdf configurators?
Maybe it's me, but I have a bad taste about the Enfocus Appstore not connecting. Probably that has something to do with the problems we all faced earlier with Switch failing to start due to the Appstore.
For me your story is enough to not upgrade for a while haha
Re: SmartStream 12 + Adobe InDesign 2017
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:14 am
by sander
Ah well, it looks like that settings can't hurt anyone.
You got it working now?
Re: SmartStream 12 + Adobe InDesign 2017
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:47 am
by LasseThid
Sorry for the confusion.
The flow works as it should and the jdf and the pdf are put in the correct folders, but it seems like the rip for the Indigo throws an error and removes the jdf-file from the hotfolder. We are yet to figure out what setting we have to change in order to get it working. Most likely I wont get an answer until monday or tuesday unless I find some time to try every combination of those things that have changed in the HP Digital Front End JDF Controller. There are only 3 options for each of the variables that are different, so that's only 81 possible combinations...
Re: SmartStream 12 + Adobe InDesign 2017
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:31 am
by sander
You can post your jdf if you want, maybe a fresh look can help you!
Re: SmartStream 12 + Adobe InDesign 2017
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:40 pm
by LasseThid
Great idea sander.
This is the jdf-file generated in Switch 13 with the settings from the previous screenshot (I added line breaks and tabs in order to make the file more "readable" for me when trying to figure out what might be causing the problem.)
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<JDF xmlns="http://www.CIP4.org/JDFSchema_1_1" Type="Combined" ID="rootNodeId" Status="Waiting" JobPartID="000.cdp.797" Version="1.3" Types="DigitalPrinting" DescriptiveName="P0_Switch13_Kasta-imposed-4876">
<AuditPool>
<Created AgentName="Enfocus~Switch - HP DFE JDF Configurator" AgentVersion="8" TimeStamp="2017-02-21T16:02:35"/>
</AuditPool>
<Comment Name="JobSpec">Switch</Comment>
<Comment Name="RetainTime">3000</Comment>
<NodeInfo JobPriority="25"/>
<ResourcePool>
<Media Class="Consumable" ID="M001" Status="Available"/>
<DigitalPrintingParams Class="Parameter" ID="DPP001" Status="Available" Collate="None" PageDelivery="ReverseOrderFaceUp"/>
<RunList ID="RunList_1" Status="Available" Class="Parameter">
<LayoutElement>
<FileSpec MimeType="application/pdf" URL="FILE://HPRO2-SM1/Jobs-7800/JDF-asset/P0_Switch13_Kasta-imposed-4876.pdf"/>
</LayoutElement>
</RunList>
<Component ID="Component" ComponentType="FinalProduct" Status="Unavailable" Class="Quantity"/>
<Device Class="Implementation" ID="D001" Status="Available">
<GeneralID IDUsage="QueueDestination" IDValue="Held"/>
</Device>
<LayoutPreparationParams Class="Parameter" ID="LPP001" Status="Available" Sides="OneSidedFront" Rotate="Rotate0">
<ExternalImpositionTemplate>
<FileSpec URL="urn:None"/>
</ExternalImpositionTemplate>
</LayoutPreparationParams>
<RenderingParams Class="Parameter" ID="RP001" Status="Available"><AutomatedOverprintParams OverPrintBlackLineArt="false" OverPrintBlackText="false" TextBlackLevel="1.0"/></RenderingParams>
<ColorantControl Class="Parameter" ID="CC001" Status="Available" ProcessColorModel="DeviceCMYK"/>
</ResourcePool>
<ResourceLinkPool>
<MediaLink rRef="M001" Usage="Input"/>
<DigitalPrintingParamsLink rRef="DPP001" Usage="Input"/>
<RunListLink rRef="RunList_1" Usage="Input"/>
<ComponentLink Usage="Output" rRef="Component"/>
<DeviceLink rRef="D001" Usage="Input"/>
<LayoutPreparationParamsLink rRef="LPP001" Usage="Input"/>
<RenderingParamsLink rRef="RP001" Usage="Input"/>
<ColorantControlLink rRef="CC001" Usage="Input"/>
</ResourceLinkPool>
</JDF>
And this is what the jdf created in Switch 2017 looks like:
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<JDF xmlns="http://www.CIP4.org/JDFSchema_1_1" Type="Combined" ID="rootNodeId" Status="Waiting" JobPartID="000.cdp.797" Version="1.3" Types="DigitalPrinting" DescriptiveName="P00000_Test_Switch2017_Kasta-imposed-7709.pdf">
<AuditPool>
<Created AgentName="Enfocus~Switch - HP DFE JDF Configurator" AgentVersion="9" TimeStamp="2017-02-21T15:35:43"/>
</AuditPool>
<Comment Name="GeneralComments">None</Comment>
<Comment Name="JobSpec">Switch</Comment>
<Comment Name="RetainTime">3000</Comment>
<ResourcePool>
<Media Class="Consumable" ID="M001" Status="Available" DescriptiveName="Use press default"/>
<DigitalPrintingParams Class="Parameter" ID="DPP001" Status="Available" Collate="None" PageDelivery="ReverseOrderFaceUp"><MediaRef rRef="M001"/></DigitalPrintingParams>
<RunList ID="RunList_1" Status="Available" Class="Parameter">
<LayoutElement>
<FileSpec MimeType="application/pdf" URL="FILE://HPRO2-SM1/Jobs-7800/JDF-asset/P00000_Test_Switch2017_Kasta-imposed-7709.pdf"/>
</LayoutElement>
</RunList>
<Component ID="Component" ComponentType="FinalProduct" Status="Unavailable" Class="Quantity"/>
<NodeInfo Class="Parameter" ID="NI001" Status="Available" JobPriority="25"/>
<Device Class="Implementation" ID="D001" Status="Available" DeviceID="Retain on dfe"><GeneralID IDUsage="QueueDestination" IDValue="Held"/></Device>
<LayoutPreparationParams Class="Parameter" ID="LPP001" Status="Available" Sides="OneSidedFront" Rotate="Rotate0">
<ExternalImpositionTemplate><FileSpec URL="urn:None"/></ExternalImpositionTemplate>
</LayoutPreparationParams><RenderingParams Class="Parameter" ID="RP001" Status="Available">
<AutomatedOverPrintParams OverPrintBlackLineArt="false" OverPrintBlackText="false" TextBlackLevel="1.0"/>
</RenderingParams>
<ColorantControl Class="Parameter" ID="CC001" Status="Available" ProcessColorModel="DeviceCMYK"/>
</ResourcePool>
<ResourceLinkPool>
<MediaLink rRef="M001" Usage="Input"/>
<DigitalPrintingParamsLink rRef="DPP001" Usage="Input"/>
<RunListLink rRef="RunList_1" Usage="Input"/>
<ComponentLink Usage="Output" rRef="Component"/>
<NodeInfoLink rRef="NI001" Usage="Input"/>
<DeviceLink rRef="D001" Usage="Input"/>
<LayoutPreparationParamsLink rRef="LPP001" Usage="Input"/>
<RenderingParamsLink rRef="RP001" Usage="Input"/>
<ColorantControlLink rRef="CC001" Usage="Input"/>
</ResourceLinkPool>
</JDF>